With just a week remaining until the highly anticipated release of <em>The Fantastic Four: First Steps</em>, director Matt Shakman has shared insights into the vital relationship dynamics between Pedro Pascal’s Reed Richards (also known as Mister Fantastic) and Vanessa Kirby's Sue Storm (the Invisible Woman). Unlike other superhero teams within the Marvel Universe, the Fantastic Four embodies a more intimate, familial bond, with Reed stepping into the role of the leader while Sue acts as his steadfast partner.
Faced with the ominous threat of Galactus, Reed and Sue must navigate the challenges of being superheroes while embracing the responsibilities of first-time parents amidst overwhelming pressures. In a recent interview with GamesRadar+, Shakman emphasized that the couple truly “complete each other.” He elaborated:
He’s the smartest person in the universe, but I often say Reed Richards is great for all mankind, and struggles with individual men. Sue, in some ways, is the most emotionally intelligent person in the world, and so she’s able to, I think, bring the everyday to his life, and he’s able to bring the universe to hers. It’s a little bit like Kirk and Spock in Star Trek in some way, right? The heart and mind coming together, completing each other.
Shakman further explained that the bond between Reed and Sue serves as the foundation of the entire group’s dynamics. He remarked: “It’s their unity that creates their strength. You know, it’s true for all four of them, and it’s definitely true for them as a couple.“
Shakman’s analogy comparing Sue Storm and Reed Richards to Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock is particularly insightful, revealing how well it fits their character arcs. While the iconic Star Trek duo did not share a romantic relationship, they led a team together with distinct roles; Spock serving as the logical, serious second-in-command and Kirk as the impulsive leader. This parallel intriguingly positions Sue as a pivotal leader within the Fantastic Four.
Additionally, Shakman delved into Reed’s internal conflicts in the film, stating, “Reed is always locked in his lab trying to solve everything. He’s five minutes away from destroying the world or saving it at any moment, and I love the idea of taking that mindset of solving everything and applying it to having a child, which is a mystery that you cannot solve.“

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Shakman insightfully noted that “love is a mystery that you cannot write an equation for.” He elaborated by saying, “Reed loves his wife, but she’s the one thing he can never solve, right?” This poignant remark draws a strong parallel between Spock and Mister Fantastic, emphasizing the challenges both characters face in forming deep connections with those they cherish.
The partnership between Sue and Reed stands out as one of the most distinctive and celebrated couples in comic book history. Therefore, Shakman’s deep understanding of their dynamic is promising, especially in light of the film’s early glowing reviews. It appears that The Fantastic Four: First Steps is on track to be an impressive introduction for Marvel’s First Family into the MCU.
The Fantastic Four: First Steps
- Release Date
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July 25, 2025
- Runtime
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115 minutes
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Reed Richards / Mr. Fantastic
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Vanessa Kirby
Sue Storm / The Invisible Woman
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Johnny Storm / Human Torch
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Ebon Moss-Bachrach
Ben Grimm / The Thing

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