Stephen Morris, the drummer for Joy Division and New Order, has provided additional insight into the ongoing feud with his former bandmate Peter Hook.

The origins of this conflict date back nearly 20 years. Hook departed from New Order—the band he co-founded in 1980 after Joy Division’s breakup—in 2007 due to internal strife, including disagreements over touring and creative direction. In 2011, Morris, Bernard Sumner, and Gillian Gilbert revived New Order without Hook’s participation. This led to lawsuits, and both parties have remained estranged since.

“Peter can be very vocal about everything, really. He’s quite an angry person,” Morris stated during a recent interview with Rolling Stone. “Basically, he doesn’t seem happy. He doesn’t strike me as being happy. He was happy in Joy Division, I think. But even that I’m not entirely sure of because he doesn’t seem happy about anything. He didn’t seem happy in New Order. He doesn’t seem happy playing New Order songs.”

Morris mentioned that Hook views his former bandmates as “awful, awful people,” which the drummer finds “a bit upsetting.”

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Joy Division and New Order are set to be jointly inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in November. On paper, this appears to be the ideal opportunity for Hook to reconcile with his former bandmates; however, Morris has his reservations.

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“Will there ever be reconciliation? I don’t know,” the drummer said. “They do say life’s too short.”

Morris also expressed skepticism about the significance of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, raising doubts about whether he will even attend the ceremony. Additionally, he is facing some undisclosed health issues that could complicate travel to the event. When it was suggested that Hook might be the only attendee accepting on behalf of Joy Division and New Order, Morris scoffed.

“That’ll be an angry speech, won’t it,” he remarked. “Maybe I’ll go with a therapist or something.”